Forum Domoticz en français

J'ai bien "nommé" tout ceux qui m'intéresse, les autres sont je suppose les télécommandes (ils sont indiqués not in db sur la page d'accueil)

Sur l'histoire de la télécommande j'ai du mal m'exprimer :

Quand "tout va bien", je peux bien piloter mon volet avec la télécommande et domoticz.

Quand je perds un volet dans Domoticz, même la télécommande ne fonctionne pas...

J'ai bien suivi cette procédure...le seul truc qui me tracasse dans cette proc ce sont les étapes 2 ii et 2 iii
Que ce soit sur ton lien ou celui d'abeille, il ne parle pas d'attendre (alors que la télécommande clignote parfois et de souvenir le volet commencer à faire des mouvements)...et selon mes tests ça m'est arrivé de perdre complètement le volet à cette étape. Obligé de faire un reset moteur avec câblage...

Canal 11 pour le Wifi. Canal 11 pour la Zigate ... comme ca c'est Nickel

Je vais pas rentrer en conflit avec mon voisin (qui est sur le 11) et que j'arrive parfaitement à capter de chez moi?

Fix-18 a écrit : 10 juil. 2020, 15:59 J'ai bien "nommé" tout ceux qui m'intéresse, les autres sont je suppose les télécommandes (ils sont indiqués not in db sur la page d'accueil)

Effectivement les devices indiqué notInDb sont les télécommandes.

Sur l'histoire de la télécommande j'ai du mal m'exprimer :

Quand "tout va bien", je peux bien piloter mon volet avec la télécommande et domoticz.

Ok donc ca c'est parfait.

Quand je perds un volet dans Domoticz, même la télécommande ne fonctionne pas...

Je pense quand tu perds le Volet, celui-ci se déconnecte du reseau Zigbee/ZiGate. Pourrais-tu regarder dans les logs si il n'y a pas un message du style ?

...... send a Leave indication and will be outside of the network.

Il me semble avoir que le Volet revient dans l'heure suivante ? Je serais curieux de voir les messages que ça génère

J'ai bien suivi cette procédure...le seul truc qui me tracasse dans cette proc ce sont les étapes 2 ii et 2 iii
Que ce soit sur ton lien ou celui d'abeille, il ne parle pas d'attendre (alors que la télécommande clignote parfois et de souvenir le volet commencer à faire des mouvements)...et selon mes tests ça m'est arrivé de perdre complètement le volet à cette étape. Obligé de faire un reset moteur avec câblage...

Pour moi, ce qui est important c'est le 2.i (c'est à dire quand on fait l'étape de RESET) en 1. il est important que la ZiGate ne soit pas en mode Permit to Join (LED bleu de la ZiGate clignotte).

Pourrais-tu après 24heures de fonctionnement, lancer un Topologie Report, et une fois que celui-ci est terminé (visible sur le Web UI), faire un export.json (Liste des equipements Raw (json) pour que je regarde si ca évolue

Pour moi, ce qui est important c'est le 2.i (c'est à dire quand on fait l'étape de RESET) en 1. il est important que la ZiGate ne soit pas en mode Permit to Join (LED bleu de la ZiGate clignotte).

Etape scrupuleusement respecté après mes 1er échecs...Honnetement pour 5 volets j'ai du faire 20 fois l'appairage, certains volets étaient plus résistants que d'autres....d'autres sont passés du 1er coup sans pb...

Pourrais-tu après 24heures de fonctionnement, lancer un Topologie Report, et une fois que celui-ci est terminé (visible sur le Web UI), faire un export.json (Liste des equipements Raw (json) pour que je regarde si ca évolue

Avec plaisir!
Merci encore pour ton support !!

PS : je n'ai pas de zoé, vu le prix et mon usage de domoticz (depuis quelques années sur quasi tous les protocoles existants) la pilule serait mal passé

Me revoilà 24h après, ca tombe bien le volet concerné a disparu!!

J'ai pris quelques screens..étonnamment la valeur dans domoticz de "réseau" est 11 (je pensais que plus la valeur était élevé, meilleur est le signal?

Aucune trace du message dans les logs du mot clé : "send a Leave indication and will be outside of the network"

La télécommande ne marche plus.

Voici les logs du volets dans domoticz :

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2020-07-10 10:14:38.560 Status: User: Admin initiated a switch command (25/Thelma/Off)
2020-07-10 10:16:57.332 Status: User: Admin initiated a switch command (25/Thelma/Off)
2020-07-11 08:13:04.700 Status: User: Admin initiated a switch command (25/Thelma/Set Level)
2020-07-11 08:13:19.528 (Zigate) UpdateDevice - ( Thelma) 2:67
2020-07-11 08:16:17.378 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0100 Status: a7
2020-07-11 08:16:17.479 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0100 Status: a7
2020-07-11 08:16:27.365 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 08:17:02.379 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 08:22:02.452 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 09:25:59.115 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0006 Status: a7
2020-07-11 09:25:59.166 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0008 Status: a7
2020-07-11 09:26:03.136 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 09:26:13.122 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 09:26:48.134 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 09:31:53.164 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 15:14:26.979 (Zigate) UpdateDevice - ( Thelma) 2:55
2020-07-11 15:14:26.936 Status: User: Admin initiated a switch command (25/Thelma/Set Level)
2020-07-11 15:14:33.440 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0008 Status: a7
2020-07-11 15:14:36.556 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 15:14:36.658 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0006 Status: a7
2020-07-11 15:14:41.524 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 15:15:16.537 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7
2020-07-11 15:20:21.611 (Zigate) Receive NACK from Thelma (be46) clusterId: 0000 Status: a7

Et l'export du plugin :

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Salut,

Pourrais-tu m'envoyer en MP un photo de l'etiquette qui est sur ton volet ( reference ) (celui qui se deconnecte), je vais contacter Profalux

Salut Fix-18,

J'ai été dans le même cas que toi il y a quelques mois. Je confirme que l'appairage n'a pas été simple (6 volets et 3 BSO profalux), et on a passé pas mal de temps avec pipiche pour arriver à avoir un truc bien sympa avec les BSO (orientation des lames, etc.).

J'ai la Zoé, et je l'ai paramétrée avant d'inclure les volets avec la ZiGate, et ça a foutu le boxon sévère

manifestement, ce n'est pas ton cas, tant mieux !

Je réagis car tout fonctionnait bien depuis un moment jusqu'à une coupure d'électricité. Une fois l'électricité remise, j'ai perdu un volet avec le même comportement que toi : la télécommande ne fonctionnait plus, le volet non plus, et j'ai bien souvenir d'avoir vu des NACK dans les logs Domoticz.

Je deux étages pour ma part, et j'ai déplacé mon Pi à un endroit plus stratégique, bien au milieu de la maison car je perdait d'autres devices (des modules Xiaomi pour ne pas les citer, ils avaient des signaux assez faibles, autour de 45). J'ai fait deux choses :

J'ai déplacé le Pi, et j'ai mis une rallonge USB de 3m pour éloigner la ZiGate du pi et de la box (ondes wifi et zigbee, ça s'entrechoc..). En faisant ça, j'ai une partie de la maison qui est devenu très mal désservie par le zigbee (le garage).

Du coup, j'ai fabriqué un routeur Zigbee et j'ai appairé les modules du garage sur ce routeur, et depuis, plus aucune perte.

Si tu ne te sens pas de fabriquer un routeur, je crois que les prises IKEA le font et ne coûtent moins de 10 €.

Toujours est-il, que j'ai réinitialisé quelques volets, et j'ai eu beaucoup plus de succès pour les appairer qu'au début en rapprochant au maximum la télécommande de l'antenne du volet (mise à profit de l'expérience du routeur). Essaye de regarder de quel côté du caisson est l'antenne, puis fais bien la manip "1xR 1xHAUT" en pointant la télécommande juste à côté. J'ai aussi remarqué en faisant ça que l'appairage est bien plus rapide qu'avant.

Merci de ton retour d'expérience

Oui je n'ai pas de Zoé donc c'est "plus facile" pour moi...

Je suis sur 3 étages (triplex) mais les volet sont tous sur la même face, très peu espacés à vrai dire!

J'ai pensé comme toi au départ en mettant le zigate au milieu de la maison..mais non rien à faire chez moi.. Un des deux volets en R+2 plante souvent
Ca marche mieux lorsque je mets le RPi "à coté" du volet concerné...mais ça m'ennuie de laisser traîner un Rpi dans la chambre de ma fille.... Et surtout que dans ce cas le volet le plus espacé (en R+0) fonctionne bien....

Je penche sérieusement pour un problème avec "ce volet" en particulier...Pipiche (qui assure plus qu'un max, honnêtement je n'ai jamais vu autant d'implication - bien qu'habitué des forums) a contacté le support Profalux, j'attends avec curiosité leurs retours! (surtout que le volet sans la zigate fonctionne correctement - je l'ai juste perdu une fois durant mes travaux)

Demain je vais faire un test avec une prise ikea...

Qu'appelles-tu par fabriquer un routeur?

Sinon pour la procédure d'appairage...ça m'a refroidi tous mes échecs...maintenant qu'ils sont bien sur le réseau je préfère attendre que le volet revienne plutôt que de recommencer (un peu marre de jouer avec le fil noir...surtout que le disjoncteur est loin...)
Une petite question sur la manip "1xR 1xHAUT" - on est d'accord qu'il faut enchaîner les 2 appuis ou attendre que la télécommande ne clignote plus et que le volet ne bouge plus ?

Pour le routeur, voici un petit tuto : https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/how_tos/how_ ... outer.html
J'ai pris le module "CC2530 + CC2591" pour être sûr de la puissance.

Pour les volets, de mémoire :

1- Ouverture du réseau, les volets font tous un aller-retour
2- 1xR
3- 1x HAUT
4-- La télécommande se met à clignoter
5-- Le volet fait un aller-retour
6-- "temps d'attente" qui me semble être très court lorsque j'approche la télécommande très proche de l'antenne du volet
7-- Tous les volets + celui à appairer font un aller retour
8-- "temps d'attente" qui me semble être très court lorsque j'approche la télécommande très proche de l'antenne du volet
9-- le volet fait un aller retour
10-- La télécommande s'arrête de clignoter
11- Je ferme le réseau

Quand ça merde, c'est à l'étape 6, le temps semble super long, il ne se passe plus rien, un peu comme un timeout, et là, la télécommande clignote 3 fois rouge et je perds le volet et sa télécommande : chaque appui sur la télécommande se solde par un clignotement 3 fois rouge (reset obligatoire pour récupérer quelque chose).

Bonjour,

Merci pour ton retour, et pour le lien. Bon j'ai acheté 2 prises connectés chez IKEA et depuis tout va beaucoup mieux...Pour 16€ les 2, même si j'adore bricoler ça vaut pas trop le coup de s'embêter.

Grâce à ces 2 prises, j'ai un maillage beaucoup plus "intense" avec plusieurs doubles "liens" et après une petite semaine de recul cela semble être stable...

J'attends encore un peu avant de confirmer sachant que j'ai mis une prise connecté à moins de 2m du volet "problématique".

J'attends tout de même, du moins j'espère un avis technique de Profalux grâce à @pipiche car tout de même je suis persuadé que ce volet à un problème (d'antenne?)

PS : je confirme l'étape 6 ou tout peut partir en c*****e...et la c'est frustrant...mais toujours est-il que mon expérience fait qu'une fois sur le réseau...le sortir/rentrer ne résout pas mon soucis sur le long terme...

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